Episode 57

My dog adopted a cat, and now I have to pay for it! - with Kayla Fratt

What do you do when you find the perfect kitten in a ditch right before you embark on a months-long journey through North and South America in a Sprinter van? Bring him along, of course!

In this chat with fellow pet professional Kayla Fratt, we talk about the recent addition to her "van-hold" - Norbert.

What you'll hear in this episode:

  • why Norbert's temperament (and age) made him a perfect small-space travel buddy
  • how "green flag behaviors" influenced Kayla's decision to adopt Norbert
  • why Norbert's natural rhythm is messing with Kayla's sleep (and some troubleshooting we did together)
  • how you can tweak the introduction framework (but don't skip steps)
  • what to consider when harness training your cat

P.S. If you want to catch up on my first chat with Kayla before you listen to this "Part Deux" - listen to it here

Want to dive a bit deeper?

Check out this episode's show notes for Kayla's full bio and contact info, pictures of Norbert, Niffler, and Barley, bonus content, and the resources we mentioned - praiseworthypets.com/podcast-shownotes/57

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Naomi Rotenberg

MA, KPA-CTP
specializing in cat and dog integration

Hi! I'm Naomi, and I'm a "cat-and-dog person" 👋 My goal with this podcast is to speak to people with multi-species households who currently feel alone. There are lots of highs and lows when trying to manage the relationships between your animals. This podcast will give you clear, actionable information and guidance about the unique issues that come up between cats and dogs. And the monthly interviews with my fellow trainers who have cats and dogs will definitely help you realize that you aren't alone!

A bit about me: I'm a certified professional dog trainer (KPA-CTP) and have my MA in Animal Behavior and Conservation. I live in my own multi-species household in Philadelphia, PA with my husband, two human kids, Uri (a mini American Eskimo Dog), and Rio (a domestic shorthair cat). I also LOVE Twizzlers (the original kind, NOT pull-and-peel).

I look forward to getting to know you and your pets on your journey towards a more peaceful and safe coexistence!